Defense wins games

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Permalink Reply by larrywb59 on September 16, 2009 at 1:02pm

I hope yoiur kidding UL struggled againt a div 2 school that lost to an NAIA school, you are kidding or you are insane , I truly hope you are kidding with the improved offense comment ROFLMMFAO

Permalink Reply by Bluerock on September 16, 2009 at 2:02pm

Paul, Disagree on the comment that UL was as good or better than any of the teams you listed. I'll give you Middle Tennessee, but Arkansas, while not a bowl team, would have beaten UL. Petrino over Kragthorpe. Any debate on that one? Vanderbilt played in a bowl game and beat Boston College, runner-up in the ACC. East Carolina won Conference-USA.
Have not seen UL play this year but did go to the Miami/ Ohio game. I saw UK players who looked bigger and faster than before. Will that translate to a win over UL? I've already stated twice on this site that it will be a close game.

Permalink Reply by Paul S on September 16, 2009 at 2:34pm

You can not judge UL on game one, just like you can't judge uk on thier game last year vs. Middle Tennessee State. uL was bringing in a new QB who had a slow 1st quarter and also there were several key defensive players did not play and also RB Ashley did not play, he is compared to Anderson. Did Kragthorpe play a vanilla game intentinally so not to show uk anything? We shall see. Maybe Krag could have brought the whole playbook and scored 50 points. No matter how many points you score it is still just 'one win'. You know Kragthorpe and the UL players will lay it all on the field Saturday. They have heard it for 2 years just like Lumpkin said uk heard it for 4 years when uk lost to UL 4 straight. RemeMber also, the uk win 2 years ago was on that last minute long TD, otherwise it would have been 5 straight for the CARDs.

Permalink Reply by Paul S on September 16, 2009 at 3:50pm

I stand by my assessment that UL was as good as the fore mentioned teams. Arkansas was not Petrino ready last year, they lost not only to uk but to Bama by 35, Fla. by 31, Texas by 42 and S. Carolina by 13. Arkansas also only beat Lousiana Monroe by 3....Vandy lost to Wake by 13, Tenn. by 10 Florida by 28 and DUKE? by 3. Nobody loses to Duke in football. E. Carolina lost to uk by 6, S. Miss by18, Virginia by15, Houston by17 and NC State by 6. UL was as good as those 4 teams if not better. They were all in position to beat uk in Lexington, except of course E. Carolina was in Memphis.
Arkansas is a much better team this year and I read that Petrino has his recruiting machine in gear now. Look for them to rise to the top in the SEC, if Petrino stays there.

Bluerock said:

Paul, Disagree on the comment that UL was as good or better than any of the teams you listed. I'll give you Middle Tennessee, but Arkansas, while not a bowl team, would have beaten UL. Petrino over Kragthorpe. Any debate on that one? Vanderbilt played in a bowl game and beat Boston College, runner-up in the ACC. East Carolina won Conference-USA.
Have not seen UL play this year but did go to the Miami/ Ohio game. I saw UK players who looked bigger and faster than before. Will that translate to a win over UL? I've already stated twice on this site that it will be a close game.

Permalink Reply by Mr_Skandl on September 16, 2009 at 3:53pm

Defense can win games... up to a certain point. If you don't have an offense that can stay on the field long enough to let the defense rest, even the best unit will succumb to fatigue. This doesn't mean that you have to score a bunch of points. What's required, though, is a series of possessions that result in ten yard gains, preferably on the ground.

Take the Bears and Colts in the 07' Super Bowl. If Grossman is just a few notches more efficient, with a two TD lead, the Bears win by a landslide. Instead, he rushes plays, doesn't get yards, throws a pick, thus causing a once impassable defense to slowly deteriorate physically.

Kentucky isn't sensational on either offense or defense. But, they're GOOD on both. That consistency and balance, I think, will translate into a solid performance.

Permalink Reply by Bluerock on September 16, 2009 at 5:02pm

Paul, I guess it depends which UL team you are looking at. First half of the season, I'm more likely to agree. 2nd half of the season I can't.
You're probably right about Petrino. It's only a matter of time before the Hogs are in the hunt again.

Skandl, I agree with what you're saying. I think that scenario happened to UK last year several times.

Permalink Reply by Shawn Duncan on September 16, 2009 at 9:54pm

Paul, I want whatever you're smoking. It must be some good shit. Saying that UofL is as good as Arkansas, Vandy, or East Carolina is one of the biggest red kool-aid drinking comments that I've heard in some time. Syracuse has 10 wins in the last 5 years. 20% of those are against UofL. UofL was embarrassed on their homefield last year by an amazing defense, and a first year quarterback. They have NO chance of beating Kentucky. And what the hell is "commonmouth"? I've seen it jokingly referred to as "cumminmouth", but this is the first commonmouth reference that I've ever seen. Try putting a post together that makes ANY kind of sense.

Permalink Reply by Paul S on September 17, 2009 at 6:48am

Go to the mirror, open your mouth, it is what you will see!!!

Permalink Reply by Brad Canaday on September 17, 2009 at 8:38pm

Paul S....Who is this gridiron genius? New to the sight? What a fresh breath of air!!!

Paul S said:

Go to the mirror, open your mouth, it is what you will see!!!

Permalink Reply by CardsRuleInKy on September 17, 2009 at 8:47pm

This was actually a decent thread until Shawn spewed his usual trash.....................

Permalink Reply by Shawn Duncan on September 17, 2009 at 10:33pm

LMAO! You've got to be kidding, Cards... You complaining about spewing trash would be like Pitino protesting outside an abortion clinic. Hello pot, meet kettle...

CardsRuleInKy said:

This was actually a decent thread until Shawn spewed his usual trash.....................

Permalink Reply by Burt on September 17, 2009 at 11:46pm

Petrino don't work for uofel anymore stupid! Burt

Paul S said:

I stand by my assessment that UL was as good as the fore mentioned teams. Arkansas was not Petrino ready last year, they lost not only to uk but to Bama by 35, Fla. by 31, Texas by 42 and S. Carolina by 13. Arkansas also only beat Lousiana Monroe by 3....Vandy lost to Wake by 13, Tenn. by 10 Florida by 28 and DUKE? by 3. Nobody loses to Duke in football. E. Carolina lost to uk by 6, S. Miss by18, Virginia by15, Houston by17 and NC State by 6. UL was as good as those 4 teams if not better. They were all in position to beat uk in Lexington, except of course E. Carolina was in Memphis.
Arkansas is a much better team this year and I read that Petrino has his recruiting machine in gear now. Look for them to rise to the top in the SEC, if Petrino stays there.

Bluerock said:

Paul, Disagree on the comment that UL was as good or better than any of the teams you listed. I'll give you Middle Tennessee, but Arkansas, while not a bowl team, would have beaten UL. Petrino over Kragthorpe. Any debate on that one? Vanderbilt played in a bowl game and beat Boston College, runner-up in the ACC. East Carolina won Conference-USA.
Have not seen UL play this year but did go to the Miami/ Ohio game. I saw UK players who looked bigger and faster than before. Will that translate to a win over UL? I've already stated twice on this site that it will be a close game.

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